Collab Lab 73 Recap & Notes

Last week’s Collab Lab brought together the folks who coordinate and support experiential learning at UWM, Marquette, MSOE, MIAD, and MATC together for a discussion focused on how we might connect experiential learning opportunities in higher-ed to those in K-12 with benefits to all sides.

Goals

We began the discussion but asking what we hope experiential learning can offer to students as well as educators, in higher-ed, or within K-12. While the group called out a few direct impacts– public service, skill development, exposure to new environments, the opportunity to make connections to material presented in the classroom, it was what might happen that seemed to offer a greater spark. The greatest value in experiential learning may come from the unanticipated impact, a passion is ignited in a student that sends them on an unforeseen journey, they gain insight into and empathy for the lives of others, they feel empowered to set a course for their own lives.

More goals came out, even as the discussion moved on, in particular, that experiential learning opportunities could help pave a path of success, a livable wage, and meaningful work.

Capabilities

Our next point of discussion focused on the capabilities and opportunities that higher-ed and K-12 can bring to support experiential learning.  It’s a long list.

Context

  • Sense of belonging
  • Uniqueness of experience
  • Opportunity to explore cultural interests
  • Opportunity to co-develop learning experiences with educator, student, mentor, partner

Resources/Facilities

  • Network connections
    • mentors
    • community resources
    • business/industry partners
    • Alumni
  • Career information
  • K-12 educators within Museums
  • Offices of community engagement within higher-ed
  • Models of successful programs
    • MKE Roots
  • Labs/equipment not available in K-12 schools

Structure/Process

  • Opportunities to connect to community and employment
  • Best practices:
    • Self reflection
    • use of artifacts as evidence of learning
    • intake models to assess knowledge and skills
    • assessment models
  • Dual Enrollment
  • MPS Learning Journeys program
  • Service learning programs/requirements
  • Credential stacking
  • Internships
  • Diversity funds
  • Centers to connect college students with businesses
    • MIAD Innovation Center
    • UWM Center for Student Experience & Talent
    • MSOE Create Institute

As participants talked through this point, they also made note of what they would like to see put in place to support experiential learning, including:

  • Having a passionate advocate or champion for a project in the community that can draw the attention and support of those who might create experiential learning opportunities to further the work.
  • Look for ways to get employers involved, build relationships that that can lead to internship and employment opportunities.
  • Look for what is in place already that can be brought to K-12
  • Take time to find where the gaps are and work to address them
  • Make the work intentional– ask those you are working for what they want and need
  • Create opportunities within these experiences to learn bout careers
  • Build and extend relationships
  • Localization of education/jobs & pathways

What gets in the way

While the capabilities and possibilities are many, there are always barriers. 

Discovery

The ability to:

  • find the right partners, where collaboration is mutually beneficial and builds value for both sides
  • see the value in partnership with K-12, particularly for industry partners
  • be aware of possibilities

Friction

  • Fatigue on teachers, companies, nonprofits to take on new work or engage for the duration
  • Staff turnover
  • Time required for planning vs doing
  • Culture of institutions to deal with disruptive rather than incremental change
  • Training required for partners and mentors
  • Development level of students matched to opportunity for growth
    • social emotional skills
    • soft skills
  • Pressures for academic success
  • Institutional gatekeeping of knowledge and relationships
  • Transportation for students
  • Misalignment of academic calendars
  • Misalignment of K-12 hours with availability of college students
  • Lack of training for community partners to collaborate effectively with students
  • Process and paperwork
    • background checks
  • Focus on test results/scores/metrics
  • Long time horizons and relationships needed to make progress
  • Demographic/generational chasms

Roadblocks

  • Priorities of institution or district
  • Schools’ idea of their role and work, and the role of the educator limits ideas and new approaches
  • Structure of school system for faculty to build relationships with the community/time to engage higher-ed, companies, local business.
  • Lack of capacity
    • staff,
    • time,
    • money
  • Lack of courage to try/mind set & culture
  • Lack of systems for K-12/Higher-ed collaboration within smaller firms/organizations 
  • Ability to get management buy-in
  • Misalignment of investment in capital rather than talent pipeline
  • Curriculum does not allow space
  • Budget constraints/pressures
  • Inflexible structures
  • Both levels are under attack in terms of
    • money
    • content
    • freedoms
    • how to deal with AI
  • Lack of trust
  • Inadequate infrastructure to support collaboration with minimal friction
  • Institutional rigidity/inability to adapt to change

 

Opportunities

Never wanting to end on a note of despair, we wrapped up the discussion by asking each table to pick a single issue and offer a suggestion for how it might be addressed. Bonus points for identifying an action someone could take this week to get things moving.

Group 1

Issue: Getting the opportunity just to explore and and experience

Change needed: Stepping of of the rigidity to embrace things that are invaluable, but de-valued

Goals: Let students just be and explore without concern that there is a specific standard to be met

Who needs to be involved: Sandra @ Greenfield has the freedom and transportation to get a group of students off campus; Students have a portfolio project to do as a graduation requirement; Marisa Riepenhoff from the Milwaukee Art Museum can offer a MAM behind the scenes program for Sandra’s students

Where to start: An email to set it up! [5 bonus points awarded]

Group 2

Issue: Within K-12, a lack of curiosity (play, passion, exploration) that links to career (purpose, exploration, thrivable way,  stacked credentials, mentorship)

Change needed: Fun & engaging educators, identify opportunities for play within industry, classroom is everywhere, instructor is everyone teachers are evaluated on the hope & joy youth/students experience not just standardized testing.

Goals: Get everyone on the same page  with a mission purpose, culture to increase hope and joy

Who needs to be involved: classroom and community, industry (professionals & mentors); youth decision making & expression; evaluators, practitioners, administrators

Where to start: Case study: Strengthen relationship between  classroom & community; inject curiosity into early education, insert purpose & joy within shadowing, apprenticeships, hands on learning. 

Group 3

Issue: Transportation for entry points– students & corporate partners.

Change needed: Bring the outside in– for the right age group

Goals: Authentic experiences

Who needs to be involved: Mentors, students, corporate partners

Where to start: Virtual options/ride sharing

Group 4

Issue: The system itself

Change needed: break the tradition

Goals: Stronger collaboration

Who needs to be involved: A risk taker/change agent

Where to start: Show up and Follow up!

Group 5

Issue: How to educate the community on the value of project based learning

Change needed: Greater appreciation for the value of project based learning

Goal: Hit enrollment target for Action Research Charter School

Who needs to be involved:  Respected voices who can speak to the value of PBL: business community, higher ed, PBL alum

Where to start: Reach out to the school/alum

Thanks

A big thanks to the MSOE STEM Center for hosting us, and to all of our featured participants:

Natalie Villegas — Director, MSOE’s CREATE Institute
Kelsey Otero — Sr. Director of Community Engagement, Marquette University
Kristin Steinbach Holtz — Experiential Learning Manager, MIAD
Josephine Gómez — Dean of Community Education & Strategic Engagement, MATC
Ben Trager — Director of Community Engagement and Experiential Learning, UWM’s Center for Student Experience & Talent

STEM Studio kicks off at MSOE

The STEM Studio sessions for our Learn Deep Fellows kicked off today at MSOE.  Over this week and next our Fellows will work together with input and support from community partners to design of real-word challenges focused on water.  Today’s work began with a focus on goals Fellows have for the program.  Through repeated cycles of asking “Why?” we saw those goals grow from tactical hopes for the skills students or teachers might development to visions our Fellows have for their students — that they can see themselves as creators, citizens, individuals who can make a difference in their community. We’ll use those much loftier goals drive the vision for projects knowing that we can hit the initial, tactical ambitions along the way.

We are grateful to MSOE’s We Energies STEM Center for hosting us over the next two weeks and look forward to covering any available surface with ideas and plans to engage students over the coming school year.

Coal Handling Virtual Design Review

Covid-19 threw a wrench in our plans for the final design review for students engaged in our Zoo Train Challenge.  MSOE had planned to play host for the session, but as schools and universities first closed and then moved on-line we adjusted as well.

As schools reopened for distance learning, five teams were able to continue work on the challenge to redesign the process used to store and load coal for the Zoo’s steam locomotives. In most cases, they were forced to do so without the resources and physical prototypes they had started to produce. On Wednesday, four teams were able to join a review session on Zoom where they presented their ideas to and took questions from a review panel representing the advisory team for the project. That group included industry professionals from We Energies, Kumatsu, County Materials, as well as faculty and staff from MSOE and UWM’s College of Engineering & Applied Science.

While the virtual format was less than ideal, two things stood out across the presentations. All of the teams were able to leverage feedback and ideas from the conceptual design review UWM hosted in December to improve not just their designs, but their ability to talk through and communicate their design decisions.  When asked by panelists about where they saw value in the experience, students consistently mentioned both the experience of figuring out how to work effectively as a team, and the opportunity to leverage and learn from outside experts.

Congratulations are due to all of the teams involved in the project. Thanks are also due to their teachers. Nothing interesting happens in a classroom without a teacher willing to say yes.  Their willingness to involve their students in an open ended project, coordinate student participation in project events, and help their colleagues at other schools with ideas on how to manage project teams is the key ingredient in efforts like this.

Zoo Train Schools and Teachers

  • Elmbrook Launch – Ryan Osterberg
  • Golda Meir – Tina Gleason
  • Menomonee Falls – Robert Regent-Smith
  • New Berlin Eisenhower – Devin McKinnon
  • New Berlin West – Bill Trudell
  • Pathways High School – Angelique Byrne/Chris Kjaer
  • St. Joan Antida – Cynthia McLinn/Melissa Peppler
  • St. Thomas More – Emily Pirkl
  • Wauwatosa East – Julibeth Favour
  • West Allis Dottke – Bernie McCarthy

Zoo Train Challenge – Conceptual Design Review

Teams participating in our challenge to design a replacement for the wooden water tower that services the Zoo’s steam locomotives presented their concepts at MSOE on Monday.  We have more than 65 students involved, representing ten teams from six high schools.  Given the number of students involved, we ran parallel sessions for the reviews, with each team presenting before a panel that included civil engineers from Excel and MSOE, experts in railroad history from The Center for Railway Photography & Art and the Coalition for Sustainable Rail (our partner in this effort), and the staff which maintain and operate the Zoo’s train.

We asked teams to cover, not only their designs, but how they organized their efforts, alternatives they considered, and where they need additional help.  Students from Elmbrook’s media program stepped up to record all of the presentations for students and teachers to review.

After a short break for lunch we pulled everyone back together for a recap session with all of the reviewers.  That provided an opportunity for the panelists to summarize what they saw in their session within a few broad themes.  One of the most interesting things for us was to see the different ways schools with larger groups organized their teams– by functional area of the tower, expertise of the team, member, or into smaller teams who would each produce a design concept.  We used the recap session to engage students and teachers in a discussion of how that worked and what it felt like over the course of the semester.

We’re pulling the teachers together next week for a debrief to guide adjustments we’ll want to make as we go into the detailed design phase next semester. That work will begin and end with visits to UWM– first, for a chance to play in UWM’s structures lab, and, on May 2nd, for the detailed design review where the review panelists will select an approach to be fabricated and installed.

We are very grateful to MSOE for hosting the event and working with us to get everything in place.  They provided a beautiful setting with the 4th floor conference area inside the Grohmann Tower.

The Journal Sentinel was also on hand to cover the event. You can find their write up here.

MSOE Hosts Workshop for Zoo Train Challenge

MSOE played host to students participating in our Zoo Train Challenge for a workshop on structural considerations for water towers.  To accommodate all of the teams in a format that allowed students a chance to discuss design concerns, MSOE ran sessions on Thursday and Friday this week.  MSOE faculty provided a quick overview of several factors the students ought to consider. Following the presentation, MSOE engineering students joined the faculty in responding to student questions.

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